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usakiwigirl
Sep. 20th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
My hubs and I disagree violently on this - he's old-school military and just doesn't like it. Thinks it will make the services less effective. Idiot.

I, on the other hand, support this 100%. Now, my child, who I wonder daily if he is gay, will be able to serve in the military that he so loves, without having to hide himself. It was always a worry to me, just in case.

I'm so happy for that young man, as well. Such a brave thing to do. Truly remarkable.
excentric397
Sep. 21st, 2011 05:06 pm (UTC)
I think gay people having been serving alongside straight people since forever. The straights just weren't necessarily aware of it. To think that now they can actually say they are gay is going to change anything is just not really understanding the situation, I think.
usakiwigirl
Sep. 21st, 2011 06:54 pm (UTC)
They have indeed served alongside, without saying a word. I just meant that if he/she chose to say they were gay before they signed up, they could. Before now, they would have had to hide themselves. I would not have wanted that for them. I would have rather they didn't serve and remained true to who they are.

I still say my hubs is an idiot about the whole thing, though. We will never see eye-to-eye on this issue. I don't even bother with him. It's not worth the argument. Some people you can't change their minds. It's not that he's not open in other situations, just blind on this issue.
excentric397
Sep. 23rd, 2011 01:53 am (UTC)
I agree, I think. To be forced to live your life pretending to be other than you are has to be unbelievably hard. People like your husband can't seriously believe that just because someone can now say they are gay will change the service anymore than those who served without anyone else's knowledge of who they are. Not saying this well, but hope my meaning is getting across. :)
usakiwigirl
Sep. 23rd, 2011 02:50 am (UTC)
Just had a massive go-round with him about this. And yes, he seriously does believe that. He honestly thinks it will affect how people look at the person next to them, when it really counts. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. But the fact that he thought it was okay for somebody to have to put aside their life, simply so they could serve, really got to me. He then told me, that maybe the military wasn't the right job, if somebody wanted both to be open about themselves and to serve. I just... I really wanted to shake some sense into him. It truly irritated me when he told me that I would never understand, because I NEVER SERVED AND NEVER WORE THE UNIFORM, WAS NEVER SHOT AT. What a load of absolute bullshit. Maybe I didn't, but I lived on those bases too, and I dealt with the same people he did. They deserved to live their lives just as I lived mine, without the fear that they could lose their job simply because they fell in love.

Discrimination is still going to happen, a la when women first joined. It's not going to be plain sailing, I know this, but I really do hope that it will get better in the long run.

I did make him stop and think for a second when I asked him what he thought of the whole thing if it was his own child. It actually stopped him cold for a moment. Better than an instant answer of no.
excentric397
Sep. 23rd, 2011 06:29 am (UTC)
I doubt you'll change his mind. Sounds like he's lived with that culture his entire life. A couple generations down the line this will seem as outdated as crystal radios (okay, that's all I could think of at the moment.). If your son is gay, however, this will at least allow him to live honestly while he serves. Sometimes I despair at humanity. The whole political establishment right now seems to be comprised of people who have a serious problem of their brains being missing. There's an icon for that.
usakiwigirl
Sep. 23rd, 2011 07:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, I know full well that I won't be able to change his mind. I was just happy enough to see him pause for a moment. It meant that at least he was thinking it through from a different stand point, something he hadn't ever done before.

That is all I hope, that somebody's child can serve, while still living honestly. I don't see any reason why they should be any less trusted out on the field - or in the barracks, or anywhere else, for that matter. In that respect, we will never see eye to eye. Perhaps for our grandkids it will all seem like a big deal over nothing.
excentric397
Sep. 24th, 2011 04:05 am (UTC)
Hopefully, this whole tea party moron greedy idiot phase will be over soon and people can just live their lives. Not holding my breath, though.
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